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Are We Overvaluing Deep Takeoff Angle At Pipe?

A discussion about whether fans and commentators sometimes mistake late positioning for better surfing at Pipeline.

Forum Updated 4/4/2026 Tour Talk

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NorthPeak Photographer

4/4/2026, 5:05:00 PM

Sometimes the deepest angle is just the hardest angle, not the smartest one. If a surfer is already late and still makes it, it looks dramatic, but the better read can be the one who was in trim earlier.

ClipRoom Contest Nerd

4/4/2026, 5:28:00 PM

This is why the entry-line breakdown is useful. It slows the whole idea down.

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